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OFFSHORE OUTSOURCING: WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE
Financial Times, UK
http://www.ft.com
December 1, 2004
IT Report
For thousands of workers in western countries - and for governments too
- there can be little doubt about what the big employment issue has been
this year. Wage rises, pensions and other concerns are taking a back seat
as offshore outsourcing - and its potential threat to jobs - has been
thrust to the top of the agenda.
The outsourcing of software development work and other low-profile activities
to low-wage countries in the developing world - notably, India - has been
going on for a decade without causing more than the odd ripple in the
west. But the rapid development of overseas call centres and business
process outsourcing (or BPO) has set alarm bells ringing for trades unions
and politicians, while being widely welcomed by businesses seeking to
reduce costs in the global economy.
In this article we assess how attitudes to offshore outsourcing vary
round the world.
United States
Offshore outsourcing by US companies has been building up a head of steam
for a couple years, writes Christopher Swann. But in 2004 the weakness
of US job creation - coupled with the approach of the presidential election
- conspired to make it an issue of public concern. Lou Dobbs, a leading
CNN presenter, launched a slot on his show called “Exporting American”
which denounced the evils of shipping jobs overseas. Once offshore outsourcing
had been confined to low-end manufacturing jobs. Now it had started to
menace the middle classes. At the early stages of the campaign John Kerry,
the Democrat presidential candidate, gave great play to his plans to stem
offshore outsourcing and lampooned president George W. Bush for his apparent
acceptance of the trend. The threat of government action to deter outsourcing
hung over the IT industry.
Now, this period of anxiety for the IT companies appears to have passed.
As job creation rates have picked up the issue has faded from the headlines.
The re-election of Mr Bush means that there will almost certainly be no
attempt by the government to undermine the freedom of companies to use
cheaper overseas workers. Although the issue no longer draws such fevered
comment from political commentators, the use of offshore outsourcing continues
to grow. The US IT industry believes it has become a financial necessity
but has also argued that it benefits the economy as a whole.
A survey published earlier this year by the Information Technology Association
of America and carried out by the consultancy Global Insight estimated
that around 104,000 jobs in the US software industry had been displaced
by the use of offshore outsourcing up to 2003. This includes jobs that
were never created in the US, as companies expanded overseas but not in
the home market. This is a relatively modest problem for the US - which
has some 3.7m workers writing and implementing software. The number of
jobs lost to offshore outsourcing pales in comparison with the number
who were fired when the dotcom bubble burst in 2000 - an estimated 372,000.
More than 268,000 IT and software services jobs have been lost for other
reasons - including the mild recession of 2001 as well as productivity
gains that have lowered the need for IT workers.
Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at Global Insight and co-author of
the ITAA report, continues to believe that IT offshore outsourcing will
be a source of net job creation in the US. “While global IT outsourcing
displaces some IT workers, total employment increases as the benefits
ripple through the economy,” he says. Lower inflation in the US
as a result of cost savings, he argues, will provide a modest lift to
real wages, which should encourage more spending and more employment.
“The incremental economic activity that follows offshore IT outsourcing
created over 90,000 net new jobs as of 2003 and is expected to create
317,000 net new jobs by 2008.”
Harris Miller, ITAA president, believes overseas outsourcing is an unstoppable
trend. “The clients of an IT company are demanding a ‘blended
rate’ - with a company having programmers that are paid $120,000
and programmers that are paid $20,000,” he says. “If a company
does not have programmers in places like Hungary, India or the Philippines,
they may not win contracts in the first place and so would actually have
to cut back their US workforce.”
The ITAA believes that offshore outsourcing will continue but that there
will also be more IT jobs within the US. Global competition should encourage
US workers to raise their game, Mr Miller says. “When the US is
challenged in an Olympic event, we do not suggest athletes from rival
nations are forced to wear extra-heavy hats or weighted boots. Instead
we try to get better ourselves. US IT workers still have an advantage
on quality that they need to maintain and lengthen in order to compensate
for the higher cost of workers here.”
The industry also says it needs to continue to hire overseas workers
to service demand in fast-growing overseas markets such as China and India.
“The kind of IT that will work in the US might not be quite appropriate
for these markets and so it is vital to have workers on the ground,”
says Mr Miller.
He points out that Intel, Oracle and Microsoft now make more than 50
per cent of their earnings in overseas markets. “The US IT industry
is winning overseas and having great success at penetrating foreign markets,”
he says. “It is pointless to start a trade war in an area where
you are winning.”
The bulk of offshore outsourcing is low-end - i.e data entry, call centres,
application maintenance. Mr Miller argues that US companies are also doing
some higher-level work overseas. “It remains an open question as
to whether high end IT work will be as affected as lower end functions,”
he says.
Canada
In contrast to the US, the outsourcing debate in Canada is less about
job losses than about what is needed to attract more outsourcing business
from south of the border, writes Bernard Simon.
Canada already has a significant “near-shore” outsourcing
sector, with industry estimates suggesting that about 150,000 people are
employed in call centres and another 15,000 in information technology
outsourcing.
Satyam Computer Services of India opened a software development centre
last February in a suburb of Toronto. Part of the centre’s mandate
is to expand Satyam’s outsourcing business in Canada. But Satyam
also sees an opportunity to use Canada as a base to win more US customers.
Satyam’s Toronto centre, one of 19 similar facilities around the
world, now employs more than 100 people. Sanjay Tugnait, Satyam’s
country manager in Canada, says that, with Toronto on the same time zone
as New York and less than two hours’ flying time from a third of
the US’s population, a growing number of US companies view Canada
as either an alternative or an addition to their outsourcing activities
in India. Canada also has one of the world’s most sophisticated
broadband networks
The September 2001 terror attacks have given Canada a new advantage as
the US has tightened visa restrictions on Indian citizens and many other
foreign nationals. “US visa restrictions are an issue, but it helps
us,” says Mr Tugnait.
According to Robert Scott, a partner at PricewaterhouseCoopers in Toronto,
it is sometimes easier these days for Indian executives to meet their
US clients in Canada than south of the border.
Furthermore, Mr Tugnait notes, some US companies prefer to keep sensitive
data relating, for instance, to disaster recovery and information security
projects close to home.
Still, many Canadian companies - notably the big banks and telecommunications
groups - outsource operations to India and elsewhere, and the pace is
expected to accelerate. A recent PwC reports predicts that as many as
75,000 jobs could disappear by 2010.
A sharp rise in the Canadian dollar over the past three years, without
a corresponding improvement in productivity, is blunting Canada’s
competitive edge. “Earlier, I could have a 25 per cent-plus differential
which I could offer US companies”, says Mr Tugnait. “Now,
it’s only 20 per cent. It will make us work leaner and smarter”.
Sensing that Canada is losing ground, the Information Technology Association
of Canada is pushing for a national outsourcing strategy. Canada must
ensure “that it offers services that a global marketplace will value”,
says Bernard Courtois, the association’s president.
For the time being, political opposition to offshore outsourcing is far
more muted in Canada than south of the border. “Canadians have realised
that they’re a smaller player in the global market and the options
available to us are fewer,” says Mr Scott. Indeed, British Columbia’s
business-friendly government is in the process of rewriting legislation
to facilitate outsourcing after trade unions challenged the practice on
the grounds that it violated privacy-protection laws.
United Kingdom
The UK has embraced its free market traditions when it comes to the debate
about moving business offshore, writes Jonathan Moules.
A survey by the Confederation of British Industry, the employers’
body, found that 53 per cent of British companies were either considering
offshore outsourcing or had already moved operations abroad.
IT support and development is the third most popular operation for offshore
outsourcing by UK companies, after design work and the manufacturing of
industrial goods. Most of those that have taken work offshore had moved
it to India or China, although Poland and the Czech Republic are also
popular for “nearshoring” operations.
The opportunity to cut costs is the main reason why companies move offshore.
However, British companies also say they like India for the availability
of skills and the widespread use of English.
Offshore outsourcing of business processes is still a minority sport,
accounting for barely 10 per cent of the market, according to Nelson Hall,
the business process outsourcing analyst. John Willmott, managing director,
says: “It is happening. But to do it for a serious business process
actually takes quite a long time.”
Research by Nelson Hall found that 80 per cent of companies that have
followed the offshore outsourcing route felt their actions increased their
competitiveness.
Financial services companies were the first to move business processes
offshore. However, banks and insurers are also the most stubborn users
of captive facilities, with 60 per cent of respondents from this sector
telling Nelson Hall that they would use their own sites offshore rather
than handing work to an outsourcing company.
There was also an appreciation of the broader benefits of offshore outsourcing,
with 84 per cent of the survey respondents claiming that the process creates
a net gain for the UK economy.
This is not to say that everyone has welcomed offshore outsourcing with
open arms. There has been a backlash among both unions and employers in
the UK. Amicus, the private sector union, has warned that offshore outsourcing
would leave the UK a nation of “hairdressers” and “fat
cats”. Financial services companies and brands such as Nationwide
and NatWest have made great play of the fact that they do not use Indian
call centres.
However, protectionism has been firmly opposed by all parties and even
union officials signed up to the free trade agenda at a meeting with Patricia
Hewitt, the trade and industry secretary, earlier this year.
There are even signs of co-operation between business and the unions.
Barclays, the country’s third largest bank, signed a groundbreaking
deal with Unifi, its main trade union, accepting that jobs will be exported
abroad but agreeing to offer early consultation on any plans to move work
offshore.
Martyn Hart, chairman of the National Outsourcing Association, says:
“Offshoring seems to be gradually shaking off the negativity that
surrounded it. Organisations are beginning to realise the real benefits
that offshoring can bring if managed effectively.”
Australia
In Australia, offshore outsourcing has not yet happened to the same extent
as in the US and UK, writes Virginia Marsh. “Where we’re at
in Australia is that companies have not yet moved as aggressively [to
offshore] as they have in the US and UK,” says John McCarthy, vice-president
of Asia Pacific research at Forrester Research, the Boston-based IT consultancy.
But he says local companies are showing the same signs of interest as
their US and UK counterparts did two or three years ago and that offshore
outsourcing is likely to accelerate in the coming period. Indian providers
- India is by far and away the preferred destination - have been stepping
up their marketing activities in Australia, he adds.
As in other countries, travel companies, financial service providers
and telecommunications groups have been among the pioneers. Telstra, the
dominant telco, for example, has outsourced more than 500 IT jobs to India
(although it stresses it has outsourced some functions to contractors,
which have then taken some of the jobs offshore) while ANZ, one of the
big four banks, has had a technology presence in Bangalore since 1989.
This was related to its former ownership of Grindlay’s. When it
sold the bank to Standard Chartered it opted to retain the operation where
it employs about 530 at present.
“It allows us to access some technology skills which are not easily
available in Australia, it provides a flexible work force which can be
scaled around projects and it provides some cost advantages,” says
ANZ, adding that it still employs 2,000 technology staff in Australia
and New Zealand.
To date, much of the offshore outsourcing from Australia has involved
what Mr McCarthy terms “commodity programming”. There has
been relatively little offshore outsourcing, he says, of business processing
operations such as call centres, although that could change. Just last
month, for example, Optus, Australia’s second largest telco, announced
it was setting up its first call centre in India. The new facility will
begin with a modest 150 seats but is expected to grow over time although
the company stressed it always expected to have several thousand Australia-based
call centre employees. At present, it has nearly 3,500.
As elsewhere, offshore outsourcing has run into resistance, particularly
from trades unions. Commenting earlier this year on Telstra’s plans
to outsource IT jobs to India, Adrian O’Connell, national secretary
of the Community and Public Sector Union said: “Laying off Australian
workers at the same time as engaging cheaper foreigners is reprehensible
and will damage Telstra’s corporate image. We are extremely dubious
about whether there is a “skills shortage” in relation to
this work. In fact, because of the downturn in the IT sector, there are
hundreds of qualified Australians looking for jobs.”
Nevertheless, offshore outsourcing has not provoked nearly the same levels
of angst in Australia as it has done in the US and UK: politicians have
been prepared to defend it publicly and promote its potential advantages.
Bob Carr, premier of New South Wales, for example, said recently: “Outsourcing
to India can’t be stopped by Australia or by the US or the UK governments.
Having an open economy brings down costs. Manufacturing was taken to developing
countries in the 1970s and 1980s. We are brave enough to recognise job
loss as we had the same with the manufacturing industry, but this is temporary.
We are losing jobs to India. That helps India to grow and the Indian middle
class expands. It is going to be buying services, specialised manufacturers,
holidays in Australia. We can’t lose from it.”
In addition, Australia is itself benefiting from offshore outsourcing,
particularly in financial services. Deutsche Bank, for example, now runs
its foreign exchange settlement operations from two global locations:
London and Sydney. It has moved 250 foreign exchange, legal, accounting
and other jobs to Australia in the past two years. Other examples include
UBS, which has a large global IT support centre; IBM, which has a Japanese-language
call centre and State Street, which has a regional custody business.
“We’re attracting jobs from the northern hemisphere to Australia,
partly because of cost and partly because of the availability of skilled
people,” says Chum Darvall, Deutsche Bank’s chief executive
for Australia and New Zealand.
He dismisses fears that India will deprive Australia of IT work, saying
the two countries can be complementary and that Australia can retain high-end,
high-skill jobs.
Germany
Outsourcing in Germany has long been in the shadow of its European rivals,
lagging behind France and in particular the UK for a long time, writes
Richard Milne. But after a slow start consultants say it is catching up.
The total German market - for non-captive outsourcing, including both
domestic and offshore work - was worth more than €9bn in revenues
last year, according to Pierre Audoin Consultants (PAC).
The country’s most emblematic deal was Deutsche Bank’s decision
in 2002 to outsource a large part of its European IT operations to IBM
in a contract worth about $2.5bn over its 10-year lifespan. It was the
biggest contract involving a German company and led many to suggest optimistically
that others in the finance industry could follow suit. But German banks
and insurers have for the most part been cautious.
Leading the way has been the backbone of the German economy - its manufacturing
companies. “Until last year 50 per cent of outsourcing was in manufacturing
industry,” says Christophe Chalons, managing director of PAC Germany.
“Manufacturing industry is very export-oriented so it is very competitive.”
Many companies such as DaimlerChrysler, the carmaker, went so far as
to create IT subsidiaries before selling them off - in its case to T Systems,
the market leader in Germany and the IT services business of Deutsche
Telekom. But recently other companies have found offloading their IT subsidiaries
more tricky, with retailer KarstadtQuelle taking longer than expected
to sell its business earlier this year to France’s Atos Origin.
Foreign companies, apart from IBM, have found it relatively tough to
break into the German market, with many privately citing the country’s
restrictive labour laws as a significant drag on deals. Mr Chalons agrees:
“There is not the same flexibility of employment laws. When you
take over a lot of people in an outsourcing deal you have to make some
people redundant but in Germany that is not so easy.” Nonetheless,
analysts at Gartner believe deals such as T Systems’ contract with
Deutsche Post in September show the country offers good growth opportunities
to both domestic and foreign companies.
Still the focus in Germany is much more on IT outsourcing than on back-office.
Although there is some evidence of a recent pick-up in BPO outsourcing
in Germany, most consultants say companies remain cautious. Businesses
are also more wary of offshore outsourcing than their UK and US competitors
and when they do adopt this approach the destination is more likely to
be eastern Europe rather than India for both geographic and cultural reasons.
Recently German companies have brandished the threat of moving not just
call centres abroad but whole factories and production lines to counter
high wage costs and poor labour flexibility.
And the driver that is the public sector in many countries has been largely
lacking in Germany. The most significant deal, involving the armed forces,
was postponed earlier this year after the government put its first bidder
under pressure over pricing. The breakdown of talks was symbolic for the
sector as a whole, consultants say - companies and governments increasingly
are seeking to lower prices as far as possible.
Italy
Outsourcing in general in Italy is growing. However, as in Germany, the
movement of service job functions outside the country is still very rare,
writes Adrian Michaels.
Gianfranco Casati, managing partner at Accenture for a region comprising
Italy, Greece and emerging markets in eastern Europe and the Gulf, says
the consultancy has signed two of the largest business process outsourcing
contracts, one with Telecom Italia at the end of 2002 and one with La
Rinascente, the retailer, in June 2003. They both involve more than 400
people, but not the relocation of jobs outside Italy. Mr Casati says Accenture
would have to consult La Rinascente before pushing through a large structural
change.
Italy has for a while however seen manufacturing move outside its borders,
in particular to eastern Europe and China. In some cases it is extra manufacturing,
in other words initiatives that do not lead to job cuts in Italy. In other
cases, there are cuts, but they are driven by imperatives that are perceived
to be larger than the optional savings realised from relocating call centres
- such as a desire to keep businesses alive at all.
Andrea Samaja, a partner at PwC, the professional services firm, says
that the high cost to Italian business of shutting down domestic jobs
is a major deterrent of outsourcing outside the country. “Your organisation
cannot be easily restructured in Italy due to local labour legislation,”
he says, “Companies are required to make huge investments to cut
local jobs.”
Since the main driver for international outsourcing is the ability to
save money, Mr Samaja says it is far less attractive for Italian companies.
Mr Casati also points to the different economic structure of Italy, with
its mass of small- and medium-sized companies. It has surprisingly few
large companies for whom the incentive to move jobs outside the country
would be large enough. “Outsourcing is about critical mass. The
number of potential targets is less than you would normally expect from
a country that is part of the G8.”
Mr Casati says there are cultural issues too. “There is no real
appetite for offshoring of functions. Companies are concerned about the
social implications and union reaction….and it’s not necessarily
true that you can find plenty of Italian language skills in Bratislava.”
Mr Samaja adds: “Outsourcing information is not an easy task -
Italian managements are often reluctant to share ownership of data.”
Nordic countries
The use of offshore services is still limited in the Nordic region, but
local IT services vendors are taking the first steps towards offshore
outsourcing, establishing their own offshore services operations or using
subcontractors and partners, writes Rupini Bergstrom. At the same time,
low-cost countries are playing an increasingly important role in the delivery
of IT services in the Nordics.
“Offshoring is becoming an integral part of delivering services
from low-cost regions and a means for offshore players from a variety
of regions to build market presence in the major ‘onshore’
IT and business services markets such as the Nordic countries. With the
ongoing need for customers to reduce costs, coupled with the proven capabilities
of offshore players, IDC foresees considerable market opportunities for
these players in the onshore markets and for local players looking to
leverage offshoring as part of their service delivery capabilities,”
says Esa Peltonen, IDC research manager.
Aside from Nordea, the largest bank in the Nordics, which outsourced
its IT operations to IBM, it is almost exclusively telecommunications
companies such as Ericsson, TeleDanmark (TDC) and TeliaSonera which have
outsourced IT services offshore. Metso, a Finnish maker of forestry machinery
has also outsourced IT operations out of Finland.
“Having started on a project basis with things such as customer
application development, some are so satisfied that they’re broadening
into application management,” Mr Peltonen says.
Indian companies definitely seem to be the preferred alternative. This
is mainly because these companies are larger and have access to more resources
in terms of staffing than, for example, Baltic countries such as Estonia
where only 100 or so workers would be employed at any given time. Indian
companies are also regarded as having a better knowledge of business processes.
In Estonia, where people speak relatively good Finnish, some companies
have outsourced their IT helpdesk functions. On the whole, however, the
trend seems to be for Nordic companies to acquire Baltic companies to
get a customer base there and probably will only in the future use the
Baltics as a base through which they can service the Nordic region.
Trade unions, meanwhile, have not been outspoken on the issue because
offshore outsourcing so far is relatively limited.
Aside from Sweden and Denmark, which have very large listed companies,
the Nordic region is made up of mainly medium-sized and small companies.
Large end-user companies are best suited to dealing with offshore vendors
because they have the resources and knowledge to work globally with all
types of companies. However, in the SME sector there is demand for local
representatives that take a project manager role and deal with the offshore
service providers. However, it seems that the biggest offshore vendors
are also hiring locals who speak the local language to deal with customers.
At present, offshore services providers such as India’s Tata Consultancy
Services, Wipro, and Infosys will have only a moderate effect on the IT
services industry in the Nordic region, with Nordic organisations’
spending with such companies accounting for only about 0.6 per cent of
the total Nordic IT services market in 2004.
But demand will increase, says Mr Peltonen. “Companies are constantly
looking for ways to cut costs and they are all involved in global businesses
where there is increasing competition. In the Nordics, English language
skills are good so offshoring is a fertile landscape in which to grow
and it is easier for Indian companies to work here than, for example,
southern Europe.”
Low-cost countries will increasingly have an impact on the delivery of
IT services in the Nordics, though clients are much more likely to use
intermediaries - IT services providers such as Accenture, IBM, Capgemini,
and TietoEnator - than work directly with offshore service providers.
Some Nordic organisations, particularly in telecoms services, have already
established their own operations in India, eastern Europe and Russia.
“With all the discussion about China and India and globalisation,
governments are starting to understand that they cannot intervene and
set up protectionist barriers,” says Peltonen, “They have
to find other means through which to improve the labour market and the
economy. And, though trades unions will probably make some noise, I don’t
think they have the power really to affect offshoring trends.”
Spain
Among Spanish companies, foreign-based customer services centres are
rare, though many experts argue that rising business costs in the country
are making Latin America look increasingly attractive, writes Mark Mulligan.
In the broader context countries such as Chile, with a highly qualified
workforce and sophisticated telecommunications system, have already become
important satellite services centres for the large Spanish banks and utilities
with heavy investments throughout the region.
With the explosion in immigration from Latin America and countries such
as Romania, the Spanish ear has become accustomed to non-Castilian accents,
clearing the way for broader social acceptance of dealing with customer
service operators from other countries. For now, however, a consumer living
in Spain will normally speak to a fellow resident when calling with an
inquiry, order or booking.
One exception is Telefónica, the largest telecoms group, which
has outsourced a lot of its customer service and marketing business to
Atento, a 90 per cent-controlled spin-off with an important call centre
in Morocco, across the Straits of Gibraltar. Although French is Morocco’s
second language, textbook Spanish is spoken by a growing group of university
graduates. Atento, which also operates in Latin America, has built a list
of 400 clients in 12 countries since its inception in 2000.
Meanwhile, recent studies in Spain show a developing trend among mid-sized
and large companies to outsource - or out-task - at least one non-core
operation. Gartner Group puts growth in the outsourcing market at 19 per
cent in the last two years, while IBM Business Consulting reckons that
about 80 per cent of Spanish companies outsource one or more departments.
For example, specialist companies are often contracted to manage payroll
and human resources. According to IDC, Spain in 2002 accounted for 1 per
cent of an estimated €8bn in global sales in this business. A study
this year by one consultancy group suggests that about 30 per cent of
Spanish companies outsource human resources tasks.
Like most other countries, IT development and maintenance and date storage
are increasingly outsourced. Here, IBM and HP lead the market in Spain,
although local companies are springing up in key business centres such
as Madrid and Barcelona. Broad resistance by trades unions has been minimal.
However, according to José Ramón Pin, head of studies at
the IESE Business School in Madrid, employees who are “spun off”
into outsourcing companies are resisting dramatic changes to working contracts.
“If you start a company from scratch to deal with, for example,
payrolls, then there is no problem,” he says. “However, if
an existing company turns its payroll department into a separate entity,
then unions covering that specific operation tend to resist changes that
they expect to constitute a less stable working environment.”
Switzerland
Switzerland is one of the less likely European countries to be affected
by outsourcing, writes Haig Simonian. English may be widely spoken, but
the country’s trio of national languages (German, French and Italian)
limits the potential to shift service functions to locations such as India.
Guttural Swiss-German is so unlike its notional mother language that even
moving jobs to Germany would be difficult.
The scope for outsourcing is further restricted in financial services,
which in Switzerland account for an unusually high 13 per cent of gross
domestic product.
The rich foreigners attracted to Swiss offshore banking, for example,
would not appreciate talking to a voice on the other side of the world
for telephone inquiries. Switzerland’s legendary banking secrecy
also imposes legal limits on client sensitive information that can be
handled abroad.
While the banks have, accordingly, been reluctant to pursue offshore
outsourcing, apart from limited software writing in India, the decentralised
nature of many big industrial companies has been a further disincentive.
Nestlé, the world’s biggest foods group, has traditionally
left power and decision making with national operating companies, greatly
limiting headquarters scope for centralised savings through outsourcing.
But even Switzerland is aware of the pressures for change, admits Rudolf
Ramsauer, chief executive of the Economiesuisse ((SIC)) employers’
federation. “It’s a huge theme. We’ve been used to losing
industrial jobs for years. The real question is, what’s going to
happen to services?” he asks. “I think it will happen more
and more, and for very simple reasons: cost,” he says.
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